Saturday, September 25, 2010

Gimme your orca and I'll leave you alone!

I've learned better than to promise to keep writing more but I wanted to at least leave a simple post to kind of bring people up to date.

I've been hunting wormholes about 2 - 3 times a month with reasonably profitable results.

In one of the WH's I've been camping I've done over 10 bil worth of kills and personally gotten close to 5 billion in profit from it.

Not shabby!

But today is the day it came to an end. I needed to free my alt up to help with some other projects so I stepped up my extortion efforts and cashed out.

But first a little history.

It all started with my just missing tackling a vargur who was plexing in a WH. He was aligned and even though I bump tackled - I missed him. It got especially painful when I reviewed his contracts and saw that he most likely had several officer mods worth a total of 10 billion (tracking computers and enhancers are expensive) on his vargur.

Needless to say, that caught my attention and I started camping their WH.

That first night I caught a lone tengu plexing. I was able to talk him into ejecting to save his pod from the onlining Mobile Warp Disruptor Bubble. 100% drop rate is always preferable (2 billion profit is nice too!)



The second night they started plexing with 2 vargurs, a scorp navy issue and a tengu. I didn't have the hi-sec bookmarked so I tried to take them solo but they chewed me up. They didn't have points, but there was no way I was going to break them.

The good news is they were cocky! I called for help and was able to bait them into engaging us and got the following Vargur and the Scorp Navy Issue (6 - 7 billion in damage) that night. We split around 2 billion in loot between us.

http://www.freelancerunion.co.uk/eve-killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=11409

Things were quite for awhile with only a rare kill every now and again (and 100m ransom from a hulk) from this particular wormhole (but some good kills including carriers coming pretty much every weekend from others).

Then a couple of weeks ago I got a tengu tackled in their wormhole. He wouldn't eject, but he did drop everything I'd want him to drop.

Check out the tengu mail on their corp losses! (1 bill + in profit)

http://www.freelancerunion.co.uk/eve-killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=1155

I had been trying to extort these guys for around 1 billion isk to get me to leave them alone for awhile. What I didn't find out until later was that one of the guys who I'd invited along for a few kills (and didn't even have an alt in their wormhole) extorted them for the same 1 billion and they paid him while I was not playing due to work.

Ah well.. such is life.

So today I was watching their wormhole and saw that they had an orca assisting their miners (but also knew that they were watching for me to sign in etc).

I wasn't able to tackle the miner, but I did talk the orca into warping to the grav site and ejecting in exchange for me leaving them alone. I paid him 75m to sweeten the pot since I really wanted to free my alt up to camp another wormhole I'd found.

The chat log of that discussion follows:

(Thanks again to Tol Sirion for backing me up on the fact that I'm an honorable guy)

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Channel ID: -14745487
Channel Name: Private Chat (Rockuso)
Listener: gutted
Session started: 2010.09.25 16:26:23
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[ 2010.09.25 16:26:34 ] gutted > o/
[ 2010.09.25 16:26:43 ] Rockuso > what was wrong with that other wh u was in?
[ 2010.09.25 16:26:53 ] gutted > What other WH I was in?
[ 2010.09.25 16:26:59 ] Rockuso > yes
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:07 ] gutted > I don't know what you mean
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:15 ] Rockuso > genepool
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:29 ] gutted > what about genepool?
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:34 ] Rockuso > what atl u got in here
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:38 ] gutted > lol
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:45 ] gutted > not me or genepool :p
[ 2010.09.25 16:27:58 ] Rockuso > yeah u gota another 1
[ 2010.09.25 16:28:03 ] gutted > I told your CEO before that if he pays me 1 billion isk I'll take my alts out so you can be in peace
[ 2010.09.25 16:28:32 ] Rockuso > lol did yopur alt lose a ship?
[ 2010.09.25 16:28:35 ] gutted > no
[ 2010.09.25 16:28:42 ] gutted > I've killed a ton of you guys :)
[ 2010.09.25 16:28:51 ] Rockuso > 3
[ 2010.09.25 16:29:11 ] gutted > http://www.freelancerunion.co.uk/eve-killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=1155
[ 2010.09.25 16:29:14 ] gutted > a few more than that
[ 2010.09.25 16:29:19 ] gutted > also ransomed a few
[ 2010.09.25 16:29:27 ] gutted > and that tengu drop was pretty nice :)
[ 2010.09.25 16:29:34 ] gutted > would be cheaper for you to just pay me to leave
[ 2010.09.25 16:30:07 ] Rockuso > chlorinator~?
[ 2010.09.25 16:30:41 ] gutted > killed a few high hats too :)
[ 2010.09.25 16:30:42 ] gutted > http://www.freelancerunion.co.uk/eve-killboard/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=11409
[ 2010.09.25 16:31:02 ] Rockuso > lol your gud
[ 2010.09.25 16:31:17 ] gutted > anyway... pay me 1 billion and I'll take my alt out of oyur WH so you can make isk in peace
[ 2010.09.25 16:31:50 ] Rockuso > lol if only i had that kinda isk
[ 2010.09.25 16:31:57 ] Rockuso > why do u think am trying 2 mine here
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:05 ] gutted > go ahead and mine
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:07 ] gutted > it'll be ok :)
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:29 ] Rockuso > lmao
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:31 ] Rockuso > haha
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:42 ] gutted > tell ya what
[ 2010.09.25 16:32:53 ] gutted > warp your orca to the hi-sec wh and eject and I'll take my alt out your WH
[ 2010.09.25 16:33:10 ] Rockuso > why??
[ 2010.09.25 16:33:13 ] Rockuso > can u fly it
[ 2010.09.25 16:33:30 ] gutted > yes
[ 2010.09.25 16:34:09 ] Rockuso > hmmm
[ 2010.09.25 16:34:25 ] Rockuso > it took me soo long 2 get it and i had 2 borrow 100mil
[ 2010.09.25 16:34:36 ] gutted > your corp will pay you back for it
[ 2010.09.25 16:34:53 ] Rockuso > my corp is almost all atl
[ 2010.09.25 16:35:06 ] gutted > yes.. but they are rich
[ 2010.09.25 16:35:12 ] gutted > at least judging by the kills
[ 2010.09.25 16:35:35 ] Rockuso > am not :(
[ 2010.09.25 16:35:49 ] gutted > yeah.. but they are.. and they can all chip in 100m or so to pay you back
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:13 ] gutted > you will have gotten me off of their backs so they can make isk in peace
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:13 ] Rockuso > why dont u just go
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:18 ] gutted > they'll be grateful
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:21 ] Rockuso > shurly there better things u cud do
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:27 ] gutted > because I keep getting good kills from your corpmates
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:34 ] gutted > It doesn't cost me anything to keep an alt in here
[ 2010.09.25 16:36:46 ] gutted > I can kill people in other WHs while I wait for you guys to give me targets
[ 2010.09.25 16:37:08 ] Rockuso > oh
[ 2010.09.25 16:38:17 ] Rockuso > will ya not just go
[ 2010.09.25 16:38:37 ] Rockuso > like its pointless me playing this game
[ 2010.09.25 16:38:42 ] Rockuso > if your just gona be like that
[ 2010.09.25 16:39:00 ] Rockuso > :(
[ 2010.09.25 16:39:07 ] gutted > just give me the orca and you can mine in peace
[ 2010.09.25 16:39:19 ] gutted > the hulks will make 70m an hour or so
[ 2010.09.25 16:39:20 ] Rockuso > plus am never gona beable 2 afford plex
[ 2010.09.25 16:39:24 ] gutted > pay for the orca quickly!~
[ 2010.09.25 16:40:03 ] Rockuso > i minded last time for 4 dasy filled 2 hanger and i make like 100mil
[ 2010.09.25 16:40:14 ] Rockuso > i give it bk 2 who i lent it off
[ 2010.09.25 16:40:16 ] Rockuso > am skint
[ 2010.09.25 16:41:03 ] Rockuso > ok am just gona watch tv or sumit
[ 2010.09.25 16:41:11 ] gutted > tell ya what
[ 2010.09.25 16:41:23 ] gutted > warp the orca to the WH - eject - and I'll give you 50m so you can have some isk to get some other stuff
[ 2010.09.25 16:41:27 ] gutted > and still leave your corp alone
[ 2010.09.25 16:41:51 ] Rockuso > how can i trust u?
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:03 ] gutted > I've been honorable
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:09 ] gutted > I'll give you the isk
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:18 ] gutted > if you warp to a planet, I'll give you the isk before you eject
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:23 ] Rockuso > hmmm maybe
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:31 ] gutted > that way you'll know you have that
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:46 ] gutted > or - warp back to the grav sit you were in earlier
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:48 ] gutted > where the can is
[ 2010.09.25 16:42:50 ] gutted > that'll work
[ 2010.09.25 16:43:29 ] Rockuso > hmm give me isk then al warp 2 wh and ejct
[ 2010.09.25 16:43:35 ] gutted > nope..
[ 2010.09.25 16:43:39 ] gutted > cause then I can't trust you
[ 2010.09.25 16:43:40 ] Rockuso > we;; wtf
[ 2010.09.25 16:43:58 ] Rockuso > how can i belive anything ya saying
[ 2010.09.25 16:44:09 ] gutted > it's in my best interest to do the right thing
[ 2010.09.25 16:44:15 ] gutted > cause I want people to pay me in the future
[ 2010.09.25 16:44:20 ] gutted > I've ransomed your corp mates before
[ 2010.09.25 16:44:23 ] gutted > and let them go
[ 2010.09.25 16:44:35 ] gutted > got 100m for a hulk a few weeks back
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:15 ] gutted > If you warp to the grav site I'll give you 25m once I see you're in warp
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:19 ] gutted > and 25m once you ejecct
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:28 ] Rockuso > why dont u just play the game like very1 else do plexs and mission
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:33 ] Rockuso > go 2 00 2 kill ppl
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:40 ] gutted > cause this is more fun
[ 2010.09.25 16:45:44 ] gutted > and I used to live in 0.0
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:01 ] Rockuso > hows it more fun
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:16 ] Rockuso > am just sitten here bored
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:21 ] Rockuso > nothing 2 do
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:33 ] gutted > then warp and eject and I'll leave you alone so you can play
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:44 ] Rockuso > might just watch sum porn
[ 2010.09.25 16:46:50 ] gutted > will pay you the isk when I see you're in warp
[ 2010.09.25 16:47:14 ] Rockuso > r u gona go find another wh and stay out this 1 4 good if i do
[ 2010.09.25 16:47:26 ] gutted > yes
[ 2010.09.25 16:47:35 ] Rockuso > what do u work as
[ 2010.09.25 16:47:58 ] gutted > I work for a software company
[ 2010.09.25 16:48:11 ] Rockuso > whats it called?
[ 2010.09.25 16:48:20 ] gutted > it's a small company
[ 2010.09.25 16:48:29 ] Rockuso > cool i wud like 2 do that
[ 2010.09.25 16:48:46 ] gutted > alrigt.. so are you coming?
[ 2010.09.25 16:48:49 ] gutted > then you can get back to mining
[ 2010.09.25 16:50:06 ] Rockuso > how can u trust u
[ 2010.09.25 16:50:30 ] gutted > my corp doesn't support scamming
[ 2010.09.25 16:50:38 ] gutted > I can let you speak toa director who will confirm
[ 2010.09.25 16:51:25 ] Rockuso > ok
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:15 ] Tol Sirion > afternoon chaps
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:15 ] gutted > Tol is a director
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:24 ] gutted > he can confirm for you that the corporation doesn't support scamming
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:28 ] gutted > it's right on our website also
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:40 ] gutted > http://www.freelancerunion.co.uk/
[ 2010.09.25 16:52:50 ] Tol Sirion > actually its one of our things we are pretty harsh on, kicked people out for it
[ 2010.09.25 16:53:21 ] Rockuso > lol so your a corp that ransoms ppl
[ 2010.09.25 16:53:45 ] gutted > ransoming goes in 0.0 (like wormholes) but we don't pirate in low-sec or scam
[ 2010.09.25 16:54:38 ] Tol Sirion > I would say its sometimes beneficial to all involved to pay a ransom.
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:29 ] gutted > cheaper for your corp in this case for sure
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:33 ] gutted > you've lost several billion in loot
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:37 ] Rockuso > no i wud say its sportsman like asin playing eve just 2 play eve like most ppl do asin mission mining plexing trading
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:43 ] Rockuso > 00 pvping
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:51 ] Rockuso > not ransoming ppl
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:53 ] gutted > and you ejecting from your orca is only 300m instead of the 1 billion I asked for
[ 2010.09.25 16:55:54 ] Tol Sirion > a WH is 0.0 though
[ 2010.09.25 16:56:22 ] Rockuso > yeah but its not pvping its stoping a playing for plainiong asin mining
[ 2010.09.25 16:56:48 ] gutted > I won't stop you any longer if you warp to the grav site and eject from your orca
[ 2010.09.25 16:57:02 ] gutted > you can make the isk back quickly
[ 2010.09.25 16:57:16 ] Tol Sirion > have you ever been fishing its the same principle. You take a boat out to where you know the fish like to swim
[ 2010.09.25 16:57:45 ] Rockuso > omg
[ 2010.09.25 16:58:15 ] Rockuso > al just come bk on later maybe
[ 2010.09.25 16:58:19 ] Tol Sirion > I know thats kinda simplictic and possibly patronizing for which I apologise but its the best analergy I can relate it to
[ 2010.09.25 16:59:12 ] gutted > would be much better for you and your corporation to get this over now rather than me just killing you eventually anyway
[ 2010.09.25 16:59:13 ] Tol Sirion > is it you want to do your thing but gutted is in system?
[ 2010.09.25 16:59:25 ] gutted > your corp would pay you back from this - but not if I just catch you and kill you
[ 2010.09.25 16:59:55 ] Rockuso > what happens if u get killed
[ 2010.09.25 17:00:03 ] gutted > me? it happens
[ 2010.09.25 17:00:06 ] gutted > I get a new ship
[ 2010.09.25 17:00:09 ] Tol Sirion > I laugh and tell him to be more careful
[ 2010.09.25 17:00:20 ] gutted > I find enough people to kill that i can pay for new ships
[ 2010.09.25 17:00:29 ] Tol Sirion > true
[ 2010.09.25 17:01:17 ] Rockuso > am considering
[ 2010.09.25 17:02:13 ] Rockuso > i still think u shud just try playing the game instead of playing the player
[ 2010.09.25 17:02:30 ] gutted > EVE was intentionally made this way
[ 2010.09.25 17:02:37 ] gutted > it's for people who are ready to HTFU
[ 2010.09.25 17:02:46 ] gutted > this offer is only for today
[ 2010.09.25 17:02:57 ] gutted > after today it goes back to the 1 billion isk to get me to leave you alone
[ 2010.09.25 17:03:58 ] Tol Sirion > Look at all the big alliances that have been played. They really did design it to be like this otherwise this kinda situation wouldnt arise
[ 2010.09.25 17:04:14 ] Rockuso > lol
[ 2010.09.25 17:04:56 ] Rockuso > think am just gona log
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:04 ] Tol Sirion > ok
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:17 ] Rockuso > lol al just come on wen your at work
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:21 ] Tol Sirion > sure you will see gutted again
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:25 ] gutted > you are just costing yourself and your corp in the long run
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:38 ] Rockuso > lol
[ 2010.09.25 17:05:45 ] Rockuso > you guys r canny
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:10 ] Tol Sirion > scottish?
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:16 ] Rockuso > no
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:33 ] gutted > tell ya what..
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:33 ] Tol Sirion > desended from scots?
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:35 ] gutted > final offer
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:46 ] gutted > 75m to eject from the orca
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:46 ] Rockuso > am from newcastle
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:47 ] Tol Sirion > sorry yes back on track
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:48 ] Rockuso > wbu
[ 2010.09.25 17:06:57 ] gutted > at the grav site
[ 2010.09.25 17:07:14 ] Rockuso > and yal go 4 gud
[ 2010.09.25 17:07:19 ] gutted > yes
[ 2010.09.25 17:08:17 ] Rockuso > swear on ya family lol
[ 2010.09.25 17:08:23 ] gutted > yes - I swear
[ 2010.09.25 17:08:43 ] gutted > tol would kick me out if i broke this
[ 2010.09.25 17:08:46 ] gutted > he's seen my offer
[ 2010.09.25 17:09:00 ] Tol Sirion > honestly and I know its hard to believe he is honourable
[ 2010.09.25 17:09:52 ] Rockuso > invite me 2 flet
[ 2010.09.25 17:10:43 ] gutted > you can warp to gutted
[ 2010.09.25 17:10:49 ] gutted > gutted is in the grav site
[ 2010.09.25 17:11:08 ] Rockuso > nice bonus
[ 2010.09.25 17:11:12 ] Rockuso > lol
[ 2010.09.25 17:11:24 ] Rockuso > 380 odd mil here
[ 2010.09.25 17:11:28 ] Rockuso > has rigs
[ 2010.09.25 17:12:09 ] Rockuso > in warp
[ 2010.09.25 17:12:13 ] Rockuso > u gona be afir
[ 2010.09.25 17:12:41 ] gutted > half the isk is sent
[ 2010.09.25 17:12:44 ] Rockuso > wait a min can i just get that can first
[ 2010.09.25 17:12:47 ] Tol Sirion > afir?
[ 2010.09.25 17:13:09 ] gutted > go ahead and eject
[ 2010.09.25 17:13:19 ] gutted > I sent half the isk
[ 2010.09.25 17:13:29 ] gutted > will send the other half when I'm in the orca and safely out
[ 2010.09.25 17:13:32 ] Rockuso > why not full?
[ 2010.09.25 17:13:43 ] gutted > to make sure you actually eject
[ 2010.09.25 17:14:01 ] gutted > doesn't do me any good to pay you 75m for the privilege of killing you
[ 2010.09.25 17:14:32 ] Rockuso > ok u be fair now
[ 2010.09.25 17:14:41 ] gutted > ok.. omw back with my alt to pilot the orca out
[ 2010.09.25 17:14:46 ] gutted > will send the other half in a minute
[ 2010.09.25 17:15:26 ] Rockuso > u promise 2 leave?
[ 2010.09.25 17:15:29 ] gutted > yes
[ 2010.09.25 17:17:42 ] Rockuso > so u happy with that
[ 2010.09.25 17:17:47 ] Rockuso > will u leave this wh :)
[ 2010.09.25 17:18:01 ] gutted > yes
[ 2010.09.25 17:18:20 ] gutted > ok.. total 75m isk sent
[ 2010.09.25 17:18:59 ] Rockuso > ty
[ 2010.09.25 17:19:39 ] gutted > fly safe
[ 2010.09.25 17:19:40 ] gutted > and gl
[ 2010.09.25 17:19:48 ] Tol Sirion > o7 all the best
[ 2010.09.25 17:20:05 ] Rockuso > lol
[ 2010.09.25 17:20:15 ] Rockuso > okies maybe i can make sum isk???
[ 2010.09.25 17:20:19 ] gutted > I hope so!
[ 2010.09.25 17:20:34 ] gutted > o/

The even better news was that the hi-sec system I ended up in was two jumps from where I'd left the loot from their tengu kill a few weekends back (and some other loot from other kills that weekend). So I loaded the ship my alt had been flying into my shiny new ship maintenance bay, put all the lot in my shiny new corp hangars - and off to Jita I flew.





(I'll try and do better about short posts and updates going forward - but no promises)

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